The Winnipeg/Manitoba Senior Putter Leagues

The Jimmy Doyle Senior Putter League

Know as ‘Senior Putter’ the Jimmy Doyle Senior Putter League is what Mundie Putter players graduate to once they either cannot, or no longer are interested in  playing in the Mundie Putter League.

As the name ‘Senior Putter’ suggests players are required to be 55 years of age or older.  Matches are conducted at a more dignified time (1:30 in the afternoon) compared to Mundie Putter where the last teams at times finish in the dark, especially early in the golf season.

The League consists of 10 member clubs;  St Charles, Glendale, Southwood, Niakwa, Elmhurst, Pineridge, Rossmere, Breezy Bend, St. Boniface and Bel Acres.

Each club is represented by three two-man teams and the scoring system is the same as Mundie Putter, one point if you win the front, one point for the back and one point for the overall 18.

Play differs from the Mundie Putter League in that the matches are played at stroke play.  That means at least one member of each team must finish the hole.  Matches usually go right to the 18 hole due to the fact that you can gain multiple strokes on one hole.  You could be two or three strokes down going into the 18th hole and still have a chance to tie or even win.

The top four teams in the standings at the end of the season get into the playoffs.

The Central Senior Putter League

The Central Senior League consists of both Winnipeg-based and rural golf clubs. Like the Jimmy Doyle League it is restricted to golfers 55 years of age and older. At the present time the League has 15 member clubs.  They are: Wildewood, Assiniboine, John Blumberg, Transcona, Larters, Selkirk, Meadows, Oakwood Steinbach, South Interlake, Portage, Carman,  Winkler, Minnewasta, and a new addition for 2016, Bridges.

The matches are played on Mondays at 9:30 in the morning and are preceded by breakfast at the host club.  The format is four ball match play.  Each club is represented by three  two-man teams.  The scoring system is the same as the other two Leagues with a total of three points up for grabs in each match.

The team that generates the most points through the regular schedule is the League winner.  There are no play-offs.

The season is ended with a  wind-up event that is hosted by one of the member clubs.

End note

Over the past twenty-five years I have participated in the Mundie Putter League as well as the two Senior Putter Leagues.  The players in all  three Leagues display a high level of sportsmanship and camaraderie.  The Mundie Putter League, which has no age restriction attracts good young players and is the most competitive of the Leagues.

The Jimmy Doyle League because it is based on stroke play is in my view is the most difficult as, if both teams members have a ‘blow up’ on the same hole it is much more difficult to recover from.

I would urge all Winnipeg/Manitoba golfers to consider competing in one of the three Leagues if they are able.  It is just a down right enjoyable experience.

DeChambeau leads after first round in Abu Dhabi

Bryson DeChambeau shot an opening round 64 in the first round of the HSBC Championship on the 7600 yard  Abu Dhabi Golf Club course.

With 9’s of 32/32 that included a bogie 7 birdies and an eagle DeChambeau would appear to be at the top of his game.

In their morning coverage the Golf Channel barely mentioned his name despite the fact he’s leading the tournament.

The American golf establishment is slow to embrace DeChambeau based partially on his unorthodox approach to the game.  This wing is different, his clubs are different, and his attitude is different.

The single length irons he uses do not comply with the status quo in terms of what the golf industry see as the norm for golf clubs.

Virtually no golf instructor of any note teaches the single plane swing

Lastly, most young golfers are trying to emulate other successful golfers on the tours and for the most part tend to look like clones in terms of their swings (with a few exceptions like Jordan Spieth, Bubba Watson and a few others).  Bryson is going his own way, trying to come up with a better mouse trap, and it seems that for him at least its working.

I wish him well in the last 3 rounds.


Bryson DeChambeau tees if up in Abu Dhabi

For those of us who have been waiting to get a glimpse of Bryson DeChambeau on the course in competition the time is nearing.

Dechambeau will be teeing it up with the best players in the world this weekend at the HSBC Golf Championship in Abu Dhabi.

How much coverage of DeChambeau we get to see will of course be dependent on how well he plays.


My new set of Pinhawk single length irons

While researching and writing the recent posts about single length irons, I was also busy on the other side of the equation assembling and experimenting with a set of single length irons.

As the saying goes ‘the proof is in the pudding’ so I have attempted to put the theory into practice.

This is what my new set looks like.



As indicated earlier, I decided to go with Pinhawk heads, which are specifically designed for single length iron sets.  The set consists of ten clubs, from flop wedge to 4-hybrid.  The heads are cast stainless steel, cavity back,  made with 431 steel which is a little softer and more bendable than the 17-4 steel used by most major OEM manufacturers.  The heads throughout the set from flop wedge to 4-hybrid each weigh 272 grams (+/- 1) and have a lie angle of 62.5 degrees.

I experimented with various lengths ranging from 35 to 37.5 inches.  I eventually ended up with 37 1/16.  If you are wondering about the 1/16 of an inch,  it has no significance.  What happened was that as I experimented with different club lengths, hitting them at the Golf Dome, there was  one particular iron that I was hitting most consistently.  When I measured it precisely it was 37 1/16 inches in length so I just built the entire set to match that club.

At a length of 37 1/16 inches and using a 70 gram graphite shaft and a 50 gram grip the swing weight comes in at D1.



The table below indicates the off-the-rack specifications of the Pinhawk heads I am using.  I suspect that some minor loft adjustments may be required to ensure proper ‘gap’ distances between clubs.


Pinhawk Iron Set
Club 4 5 6 7 8 9 PW GW SW LW
Loft 20° 25° 30° 35° 39° 43° 47° 51° 55° 59°
Lie 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5°
Weight (grams) 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272
Offset (mm) 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3

Source:  Value Golf


I have already done some lie adjustments on a few of the irons to promote a more upright swing plane.  A few of the irons have been bent as much as 2.5 degrees without any breakage.

The final lofts and lies will not be arrived at until the clubs are tested in ‘on course’ conditions.

Below are links to the series of posts previously written on the topic of Single Length Clubs.

Who are Homer Kelley and Bryson DeChambeau

Standard length and loft for irons

Single length golf clubs

Advantages and disadvantages of single length irons

The effect of club length on swing speed and distance

The effect of loft on carry distance

Unless something miraculous or untoward happens in the next few months at the Dome I won’t write another post about these clubs until the grass is green and the birds are singing again.



Effect of Loft on Carry Distance


loft picture

The Effect of Loft

The loft of an iron has a much greater effect on the distance your ball will carry than does the length of the club (swing speed).  Many in the golf industry estimate that with irons, the ratio is  as high 20:80,  meaning that loft has 4 times the effect on distance as compared to swing speed.  At a swing speed around 78 miles per hour and a club length of 37 inches every degree in change of loft will result in a much greater difference in distance than a 1 mph change in club head speed.

The long and the short of it is that when you reduce the length of your irons to a 7 iron length (in the case of the irons longer than a 7 iron), and lengthen the shafts on the 8 iron to the wedges to the 7 iron length you will affect swing speed generated by those clubs.

How to compensate 

With single length irons the change in loft is the primary factor in terms of compensating for the loss in distance with the 3-6 irons, and the gain in distance for the iron through wedges.  The lofts on the longer irons are strengthened while on the shorter irons they are decreased.

There is another factor that plays into this as well, that being club head weight. Physics tell us that when a moving object (the club head) strikes a stationary object (the ball) the amount of force applied to the ball is dependent on two factors, the speed of the moving object, and its weight.  It is akin to a 20 ton truck travelling at 60 kph and striking a light standard knocking it over, and a Smart-car traveling at the same speed striking the same  light standard and scuffing the paint on the pole.

Because the heads on single length clubs are all the same weight (around 272 grams) the head on the 4 iron is 20-25 grams  heavier than a traditional 4 iron and will exert more force causing a slight increase in distance.  The head on the pitching wedge which is approximately 20 grams lighter than the traditional weight  will exert less force and cause a slight decrease in distance.


By varying the loft of the irons, other than the 7 iron which is the standard, it is theoretically possible to build a set of clubs that are all the same length and still hit the ball distances very similar to traditional clubs while at the same time  ensuring the wedge to 8 iron don’t go to far and the 3 to 6 iron go far enough to maintain a workable ‘gap’ in terms of the different distances each club will hit the ball.

In my mind the disadvantages addressed in an earlier post can be compensated for, leaving only the advantages, which I would argue are so beneficial that a strong argument can be made at least putting the concept to the test as opposed to dismissing it out of hand.

As indicated in an earlier post I am in the process of assembling a set of single length irons.  I have experimented with lengths ranging from 35 to 37.5 inches and different combinations of lie angles.  I am getting close to arriving at what will be my ‘final’ specifications and when I do I will be writing a post about the finished product.